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I'm not sure if I should put this here, but it is a guide, so... https://community.tulpa.info/thread-misc-a-tulpa-checklist The links for this guide are dead for me, it's still on the list of guides post. Is that intentional?

A Tulpa Checklist

Edit: Alright, I made some changes based upon feedback. -Time counts are now removed -Added in suggestions and changed / improved some sections As you may have just now noticed, this is my first post

The very last post has a backup

Oh okay

9:01 PM

Thank you.

My review for Shinyuu's article has been submitted. (edited)

Here is a list of topics to help with narration, for those who struggle with coming up with ideas to talk about.

Talk to your tulpa about anything that interests you, or you think you can talk about well. Don't worry about repeating yourself or telling your tulpa something they already know: the content is secondary to the actual act of talking to them consistently. Use this list for inspiration, talk to them as much as you can, and don't stress over whether or not it's the "right" way to narrate. Do what works for you as best as you can and you're good.

The list:

All about you
All about your tulpa
Animals/pets
Animation/cartoons
Art/creativity
Aspirations/goals
Books/literature
Cars/transport
Celebrities/entertainers
Childhood/adolescence
Clothing/fashion
Comedy/humor
Cosmetics/beauty
Countries/the world
Culture/society
Current mood/thoughts
Decorations/design
Emotions/feelings
Exploration/adventure
Facts/trivia
Fame/fortune
Family/friends
Fears/worries
Fiction/stories
Food/cooking
Fun/games
Habits/quirks
Health/fitness
History/events
Hobbies/talents
Holidays/events
Hometown/country
Hopes/dreams
House/room
Idols/role models
Imagination/wonderland
Immediate surroundings
Interests/obsessions
Internet/social media
Issues important to you
Life
Likes/dislikes
Love/romance
Mathematics
Memories
Mind/mentality
Morals/values
Movies/TV
Music
Nature/environment
News/politics
Past/present/future
Personal belongings
Personality/identity
Philosophy/thinking
Places you like/want to visit
Plans for the day/week
Relationships/people
Religion/spirituality
School/work
Science/technology
Seasons/weather
Senses you're currently experiencing
Something you're looking forward to
Space/the universe
Sports
Stores/restaurants
Successes/achievements
Superpowers/magic
The day/week/year so far
Time
Toys/stuffed animals
Tulpamancy

...and anything else you can think of!

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i didnt think of a lot of those, thats rly helpful

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morning gat people.

Advertising is acceptable as long as it is minimal, does not distract from content, and also can bring some additional value to a system's tulpamancy experience. Asking to subscribe to a mailing list on a site that publishes tulpa articles is okay. "Follow me on Instagram" would not be

does that mean Medium that constantly nags to buy a subscription isn’t allowed?

7:16 AM

is kofi badge allowed? Patreon?

7:17 AM

is it okei to “discuss this article on reddit” or that advertises reddit?

7:18 AM

is instagram okei if the author posts short tulpamancy quotes to instagram?

If advertising your content is more important to you than actually relaying information to people, then perhaps you should re-evaluate your motivations for creating guides and supposedly helpful articles in the first place.

7:32 AM

Patreon pages and other financial support models do nothing but encourage cults of personality in a community like this.

I know your opinion on the subject; kopase

8:04 AM

I don’t really share it

8:04 AM

given the rules thread is locked for feedback I want the gat team to elaborate here

8:05 AM

perhaps your effort would be better spent protesting against VAT on the books shrugs

8:08 AM

my concern is that instead of dealing with paywalls the rules deal with instagram

and it's kinda odd to hear an argument against patreon on .info which is in part sponsored by patreon...

@Shinyuu My concern is that you are attempting to utilize tulpa.info - and the rest of the community - to springboard your own sites, materials, and possibly now paid subscription services under the guise of creating articles. You continue to evade the actual criticisms lobbied at your content save for simple grammatical corrections in favor of continuing this protest against the GAT's general unwillingness to allow you to advertise your website under the officially approved guides section.

kopase; maybe go feck off? I came to ask clarifications on the "officially approved guides section" rules and you just need to keep it personal

8:27 AM

you are the epitome of what's wrong with the sciency part of tulpa communities

@Shinyuu What, that I look for basic integrity in what is ostensibly a community resource to provide further insight into living with and developing tulpas? The rule seems pretty clear to me - advertising should be minimal and restricted to content that is both relevant and useful to the tulpa community and newcomers looking for guides. Really, I'd rather not have it restricted altogether, which is where you seem to be taking things

in the context of

5. Advertising is acceptable as long as it is minimal, does not distract from content, and also can bring some additional value to a system's tulpamancy experience. Asking to subscribe to a mailing list on a site that publishes tulpa articles is okay. "Follow me on Instagram" would not be

I don't see how the "Asking to subscribe to a mailing list on a site that publishes tulpa articles is okay. "Follow me on Instagram" would not be" part explains the "Advertising is acceptable as long as it is minimal, does not distract from content, and also can bring some additional value to a system's tulpamancy experience". People use instagram as a valid platform to post stuffs; I've seen people using instagram in tulpa art threads. The examples aren't coherent; they don't cover the question of paywalls (which in the context of advertising I think they should have). The wording in there is still flexible enough to go down the case-by-case basis

8:34 AM

that's literally the only concern I have with it

8:36 AM

I've been followed up by to clarify if my next piece should go into the review and I need to figure the playing field to tell if it should. I kinda see the trend behind what GAT people don't want to see in publications but that effectively makes lots of useful tulpa publications on e.g. Vice irrelevant under the GAT standards

8:37 AM

if .info wants to be an academic-quality aggregator only I have no issues with that; it's fair. but they might need to weed the old submissions first; then

8:38 AM

I'm pretty sure the new GAT team will figure where they want to go and my job as a submitter is to help them figure that by asking questions

iirc the plan is to go through the current queue before starting to revisit old content, but I absolutely agree that it needs to be held to a modern standard. Thank you for clarifying and I am sorry for assuming - when you asked initially, it appeared as though you were asking specifics on to what extent you could promote yourself through submissions.

8:40 AM

But I agree that the specific wording should be a little more clear or just outright be a case-by-case deal

well; sorry for my outburst then.

Me too :/

8:43 AM

Really the intent seems pretty clear though - relevant advertising for content that is informative rather than personal. Perhaps this is a case of excessive wordiness decreasing clarity?

the way you word it makes perfect sense

8:44 AM

but I'd also say "intentional"? like; I cannot control what medium would show in the related articles; or what wordpress do for the matter

8:44 AM

there's the article's meat – the text; and I think that's what should be judged no matter the platform

8:45 AM

e.g. I don't think it should be the GAT's job to see if the website has ads; only that the full content is accessible directly

8:46 AM

in other words if you can read the text no worse you can do it on .info – it should be okei

there's the article's meat – the text; and I think that's what should be judged no matter the platform Right. But when these articles are hosted on a personal blog with plenty of promotion for content that is decidedly not related and relevant to educational tulpamancy topics, I think perhaps care should be taken to ensure a moderate degree of separation, too (edited)

on that specifically – and getting back to myself – I work on the blog redesign and I consider pulling the whole tulpamancy away

...which probably comes back to things going on a case-by-case basis again

but on bigger aggregators like medium you have little control on that

tbh I really don't get why you're so intent on using Medium

dunnoes even; they have a really nice editor?

8:49 AM

I kinda see them as a new spiral of the blogging; they are about the best on the market

Call em old fashioned but virtually all of my clients either use plain HTML webpages or Wordpress sites to host their content

I use wordpress too and it annoys the hell outta me lately

8:50 AM

life used to be simpler three years ago

8:51 AM

I know little of the html thingy; I want to author my texts and to make them look good; readable and such. Sometimes I want side images and other times I need actual graphs

8:52 AM

and of course I want that all for free because I don't like ads and I wouldn't show ads on my blog to pay for it

For personal stuff I've preferred sites like Wix, Weebly, etc but those are premium. Most of my clients run a business and turn a profit from their sites as well so their blog content has a different purpose in mind (usually referral links for products and stuff)

I've looked at wix – the amount of bus ads for it makes it impossible to miss – and it's nice but yeahs; it's not free

They also break your site if you stop paying which is bad

makes me wonder what happens to my blog when I die. Hopefully Cadey is still around to backup it all

In all honesty I think the best solution for your stuff would be to allow it to be hosted directly on .info and include a link back to the blog. I'm sure they'd allow it and people interested in the rest of the site content would probably click links in similar numbers

even reddit is more useful in terms of read stats than info...

8:58 AM

hm. I wonder if pleeb could make a wordpress thingy where authors could post their content; mods would approve it and then the stats would be accessible directly...

At least .info's page views are real numbers and not estimates run through an algorithm like Reddit seems to be

In regards to your initial question, what do you mean by Medium nagging about a subscription? To the site or Medium itself? Kofi and Patreon seems okay as long as it isn't advertised within the article. For example, if it's at the bottom of your site or something, I feel like that should be okay. I wouldn't say Reddit is more useful. It's a plethora of amateur collections with no real sense of record-keeping or professionalism. Reddit is a more popular platform which will automatically have more reads/views in general. Then again, that's just personal experience from browsing through the tulpa subreddit and Reddit in general. Edit: Thanks for the gold

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Either way, a forum like .info is a fine place to post guides and articles. Forum pages have similar permanence and search engine prioritization as regular webpages, just with a more accessible interface and platform

Mild joking aside, Reddit does have its uses, though for tulpa-related things I feel like it isn't a reliable platform. Certainly good for mixing ideas, but there's no real filter on quality.

Clo; the recent thingy on medium is premium articles. Like; you can only read five a month for free

9:02 AM

it's a curious monetizing mechanism although it annoys me so much

It would certainly be annoying and be a detriment toward the guide, yes. If it counts unique views, it may actually hurt the guide's chances as users may only have a certain number of times they can view it before they're locked out. Initially I felt like it wouldn't really apply, but thinking about it, locking users behind a paywall to read peer-reviewed and approved guides/articles when there are tons of other resources to create tulpas leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

9:05 AM

But that's just me. It seems as if all the other GAT members are away at the moment, so we'll see what they think when they see this later. (edited)

Clo; can you push ny submissions to the end of the queue please? I totally can’t deal with all this while sick

9:10 AM

I need a breather and you don’t need to be blocked on me

I'll bring it up with the others and we'll be more than happy to accommodate for that, I'm sure.

thanks~

Any sort of paywall should definitely not be allowed

11:49 AM

I also think that commercial advertisement should be banned, but it seems like im alone on that one

As long as it isn't selling guides directly I'm alright with it. If people manage to make money from others then that's good for the long-term health of quality and effort that goes into guides and other content.

11:54 AM

Although that may backfire if there are people who will lie exaggerate or otherwise stretch the truth for more attention to get money, but people will do that for attention regardless. (edited)

Ads are distracting and unrelated to tulpamancy. They are just as bad as saying "follow me on insta" except at least it doesn't cost money to follow someone on Instagram (edited)

what's the problem with instagram? I follow a couple good artists there; quality content

I'm just saying if we ban advertisement like that it doesn't make sense to allow commercial ads

well; I don't quite get why you're banning it in the first place but yeahs; better be consistent

It all depends whether or not it actually brings tulpa-related value

12:39 PM

Instagram was just an example

12:39 PM

Since it is just people posting photos

it's way past "people posting photos"

12:43 PM

it's a full-blown social and advertising platform nowadays

12:44 PM

but I get your point

12:44 PM

I think the rules need to be rephrased slightly to match what you mean

I agree that the rules are vague and would benefit from re-wording. It seems to boil down to the question, "Is the social media primarily for causal and personal use or for distributing Tulpa related content?" Your blog seems to exist in a grey area on this matter. Advertising wise, my perspective is you're in the clear. However, your blog has other issues that need to be discussed further.

Which guides previously approved by the GAT should be re-reviewed to determine if they still hold up? Preferably guides 2+ years of age

6:29 PM

Here is the list https://community.tulpa.info/thread-list-of-guides--12660

List of Guides

A list of the various guides, tips, resources and articles submitted to tulpa.info, arranged by their topic. Whether an entry is approved or disapproved depends on tulpa.info's Guide Approval Team (GA

@A long kiss goodnight that's absolutely fair

would you all be able to announce when a guide is approved or not as well?

I can announce when they're approved, yeah

sounds good, I'm curious to know that as well

So far we've not approved any guides, though we did dissaprove one

I don't think it'd be nice to announce which guides didn't get approved :[

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I agree

We should only announce approved guides.

@Gray I'll post here what I put on the forums so discussion of individual points can be done more directly. Ping me whenever you see this and if you'd like to respond, please.

I like what's been put down here and find it to be generally well-written and accurate. I think the GAT should approve it as it stands currently. However, I would like to request that you add in a paragraph about visualizing multiple objects at once. Focusing on one thing in high detail is important, but you do not mention a gradual progression to introduce two, then three, then five, then ten etc objects until you have a larger and more complex WL. Most people struggling with visualization will struggle with that hurdle, too.

I'm also not sure if a tree is the best second step for visualization. You go from a very simple shape to something very complex with many intricate details. Perhaps you should change the second step to be something of a complex shape but not particularly detailed, such as a wooden chair or a desk? It feels like it's perhaps too much of a jump from sphere to tree.

I disagree with Ponytail's assessment that the shift from academic to personal tone is inappropriate. I feel that it is fine to use such a tone in the context of an introductory paragraph, even in an educational guide. The rest of the text lacks that personal and subjective attitude so I think tone is completely fine.

So yeah, I think it's pretty alright as it stands currently, but those additions and changes might make it feel a bit more natural and easy to follow.

Also @Felight regarding your post on the forums, it's tagged as Wonderland so I assume under the "Wonderland" section of the guides sub-forum.

There's no wonderland section